April 12, 2016 3:13 PM EDT ››› ERIC HANANOKI
[Editor's note: Having overlooked this article at the time of its publication, I am pleased to share it with those who follow my blog. Philosophers, especially, value criticism--and Media Matters has done its best to discredit me here. The original included only 6 minutes of my interview with Roger Stone, so I have included it in its entirety here.]
Donald Trump ally Roger Stone last month appeared on James Fetzer’s internet radio show and said there’s “nobody in the researcher community that I respect more.” Fetzer is a fringe conspiracy theorist who has claimed that the Holocaust, Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, and 9/11 attacks were faked. During the interview, Stone said he plans to ask for a 9/11 “reading list” from Fetzer to “get myself educated” -- as soon as he’s done with the manuscript of his book alleging the Clintons murdered John F. Kennedy Jr.
Roger Stone On James Fetzer: “Nobody In The Researcher Community That I Respect More”
Roger Stone Is A Longtime Trump Friend And Adviser Who Now Heads A Pro-Trump Super PAC. Stone worked as a top political aide to Donald Trump's presidential campaign before exiting in August. Stone is a notorious "dirty trickster" who formed the anti-Hillary Clinton group C.U.N.T. in 2008 and has spent much of the 2016 cycle pushing smears about the Clintons. He has a history of lobbing racist and sexist attacks against media figures, and was recently banned by CNN and MSNBC. He currently heads the pro-Trump super PAC Committee to Restore America's Greatness and is a frequent Trump supporter in the media. Stone has been under heavy criticism recently because of his stated plan to "disclose the hotels and the room numbers of those delegates who are directly involved in" allegedly stealing the nomination from Trump at the Republican convention. [Media Matters, 10/14/15, 2/22/16, 4/5/16; 4/6/16]
James Fetzer Is A Conspiracy Theorist Who Regularly Pens Fringe Books And Articles. [Veterans Today, accessed 4/11/16]
Stone To Fetzer: “There’s Really Nobody In The Researcher Community That I Respect More Than You.” While Stone was appearing as a guest on Fetzer’s internet program The Real Deal, Fetzer described an episode of his program he had done about “who was responsible for 9/11 and why” and offered to give Stone some “leads” into the “death of JFK Jr., which unquestionably was an assassination.” Stone responded, “That’s great to know, Jim. As you know, there’s really nobody in the researcher community that I respect more than you.”
[Media Broadcasting Center, The Real Deal, 3/11/16]
Stone Dedicated His Book The Clintons' War On Women To Victor Thorn, Who Wrote The Holocaust Hoax Exposed And Blames A "Jewish Plot" For The 9/11 Attacks. [Media Matters, 11/13/15]
Stone Is A Regular Guest On The Radio Program Of Alex Jones, Who Has Pushed Conspiracy Theories About 9/11, Sandy Hook, And Other Tragedies. [Media Matters, 2/10/16]
Fetzer Believes “The Holocaust Story Appears To Be False And Cannot Be Sustained”
Fetzer: “The Holocaust Story Appears To Be False And Cannot Be Sustained.” Fetzer wrote an article for the anti-Semitic Veterans Today purportedly proving that the “Holocaust story” was “falsified”:
Counting deaths attributed to the Holocaust—apart from the records of the International Committee of the Red Cross—turns out to be an exercise in “fuzzy math”, because none of them add up. As Faurisson observed during an interview on 13 December 2006, the Yad Vashem database was built up by “simple unverified declarations emanating from unverified sources and processed in such a way that one and the same person can be recorded as having died several times, even, it seems, as many as ten times”. And even the most complete archives are not collated to make total numbers accessible but only individual cases—which appears an obvious measure to preserve the untestability of (h1), the hypothesis that 6,000,000 Jews had perished.
Holocaust story falsified
So, insofar as we depend upon empirical evidence and laws of science, the Holocaust story appears to be false and cannot be sustained. [Veterans Today, 5/1/15; Southern Poverty Law Center, 1/6/11]
Fetzer Wrote That His "Research On The Holocaust Narrative Suggests That It Is Not Only Untrue But Provably False And Not Remotely Scientifically Sustainable." The Star Tribune wrote of Fetzer:
But on his website, Fetzer says, "my research on the Holocaust narrative suggests that it is not only untrue but provably false and not remotely scientifically sustainable."
Fetzer denies he is an anti-Semite. He suggested I describe his skepticism of the Holocaust like this (his words): "Fetzer argues that, if the inmates had been gassed using Zyklon B, then their bodies would have turned pink and the walls of the gas chambers would have turned blue. But we have no reports of pink bodies and the only walls that are blue are those used for delousing, which means the official narrative cannot possibly be correct." [Star Tribune, 1/21/15]
Fetzer Promotes “Anti-Semitic 9/11 Conspiracy Theories”
Fetzer Founded “Scholars For 9/11 Truth.” Fetzer wrote an article on the group’s page explaining why “the government's account” about the September 11, 2001, attacks, “cannot possibly be correct.” The reasons include the “impact of planes cannot have caused enough damage to bring the buildings down,” and “WTC-7 came down in a classic controlled demolition.” [Scholars for 9/11 Truth, 2007]
ADL: Fetzer Has Promoted “Anti-Semitic 9/11 Conspiracy Theories.” The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has criticized Fetzer for promoting anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about the 9/11 attacks:
In “Scholar Backs Farrakhan on 9/11 (March 23), the “scholar” the NOI promotes is James Fetzer, one of the co-founders of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, an organization that is composed of academics and others who believe that the U.S. government played a role in the 9/11 attacks. Fetzer is also a columnist for the anti-Semitic website Veterans Today and has written articles in which he promotes anti-Semitic 9/11 conspiracy theories.
Fetzer made the following statements in his interview with the NOI:
·“The plan appears to have originated in the fertile mind of Benjamin Netanyahu, who wanted to devise a plan to draw the United States into a war with the Arab nations that served as a counter-balance to Israel’s domination of the Middle East.”·“9/11 was brought to us compliments of the CIA, the Neo-Cons in the Department of Defense and the Mossad.”
·“We present proof of Israeli and Zionist involvement from the security at the airports to the World Trade Center…and many others involved in setting the 9/11 stage and carrying it out.” [Anti-Defamation League, 3/31/16]
Fetzer To Stone: “The Whole Thing Was Fake About The Planes. … None Of Those Planes Crashed On 9/11.”
FETZER: I founded Scholars for 9/11 Truth. I’m about to publish a new book on it. 9/11 was brought to us by the CIA, the neocons in the Department of Defense, most of whom had come from the Project for A New American Century and were dual U.S.-Israeli citizens and the Mossad. Now it’s true that 15 of the 19 purported hijackers were Saudi Arabian. None were from Iraq. But they were all fake. The whole thing was fake about the planes, Roger. None of those planes crashed on 9/11. It’s a complicated case. [...]The key thing is a half a dozen of these suicide hijackers turned up alive and well the following day and were interviewed by the British media. [Media Broadcasting Center, The Real Deal, 3/11/16]
Stone Told Fetzer He Was Writing A Book Accusing The Clintons Of Murdering JFK Jr. After Fetzer pushed his conspiracy theory about the 9/11 planes being “fake,” Stone said he’s been occupied writing books about Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) and the alleged murder of John F. Kennedy Jr. by the Clintons. Stone stated he has a book coming out next year in "which I make the case that John F. Kennedy Jr. was murdered. And he was murdered by the Clintons because he was in the way. Now I have extraordinary new evidence that nobody else has seen.“ [Media Broadcasting Center, The Real Deal, 3/11/16]
Stone Said He Would Get “A Reading List On 9/11” From Fetzer After Stone Finishes Writing His JFK Jr. Book. After stating that he was busy writing a book about JFK Jr., Stone promised Fetzer: “As soon as I finish that manuscript, I’m going to go to you and get a reading list on 9/11, and I’m going to get myself educated.” [Media Broadcasting Center, The Real Deal, 3/11/16]
Fetzer Believes The Sandy Hook Shooting Was Faked
Fetzer Edited The Book Nobody Died At Sandy Hook. In the book Nobody Died At Sandy Hook, Fetzer concludes that the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, was faked by “officials at every level” to push gun control on the country (emphasis in original):
Because of this, much of the nation seems to believe that gun violence, particularly school shootings, is on the rise even with evidence that points to the contrary.
The reasons behind this aggressive behavior by the administration, even when gun violence has been falling in the United States, involves deep questions about the role of DHS in our society and why America has been devolving into a totalitarian state. I was born a year-and-a-day before Pearl Harbor, as my father used to put it; and I would never have imagined in my wildest dreams that the United States of American could descent into a bottomless pit of lies, deceit and deception
Faking a school shooting to instill fear into a population for political purposes is an act of terrorism, where it has become clear that this instance was brought to us by officials at every level of Connecticut government from the teachers and reporters to the State Police and the Newtown School board to the Governor and the Attorney General and the President himself. And this is the ugly legacy of Barack Hussein Obama. [Rense.com, accessed 4/11/16]
Cover Of Fetzer's Sandy Hook Book: "It Wasn't A School Massacre. It Was A FEMA Drill."
Fetzer: “There Was No Mass Evacuation” At Sandy Hook “Because No Students Were There.” Fetzer wrote in a 2015 article about the mass shooting at Newtown:
You all know (and apparently buy into) the official account that Adam Lanza shot and killed 20 kids and 6 adults, which has been widely broadcast by the mass media. But working together with three other professors and a host of other independent students, we have established (1) that the school was closed by 2008, (2) that there was no mass evacuation (because no students were there); (3) that the “iconic” Shannon Hicks’ photograph was staged in advance; and (4) that the “official account” does not create a causal nexus that ties the alleged shooter to his purported victims and the weapons he is said to have used. [Veterans Today, 5/1/15]
Fetzer: Sandy Hook “Was A Drill And No Children Died.” Fetzer wrote in a 2015 article headlined, “Sandy Hook Hoax: How we know it didn’t happen”:
The absence of evidence that should be present and the presence of evidence that should be absent are keys to unraveling Sandy Hook. And the suppression of the new documentary, “We need to talk about Sandy Hook”, appears to be backfiring. Proof of fraud and fakery continues to mount, substantiating it was a drill and no children died. [Veterans Today, 5/1/15]Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, is McKnight Professor Emeritus on the Duluth Campus of the University of Minnesota.